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david_594
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66 posts		 Dec-16-06, 01:18 AM (EDT)
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"Heat grips?"
 
   Has anyone done heated grips on a vintage scoot? Serious question. I searched the archives and I came up with a couple posts in the new scoot section but no mention of people doing it on vintage bikes.

Of course it would have to be a battery bike. But I am thinking it should work for my p2.

Here is the kit I had in mind. $35 doesnt seem crazy and you can keep the original grips so it doesnt look horrid. http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Rider/heated_grip_kit1.htm

On low they draw roughly 20 watts and on high about 35 watts. Might be a little much for the scooter electrical system.... but I figure if I use my blinkers less or something... and throw it on a trickle charger every night it shouldnt be an issue.

Thoughts? comments? Any "your so gay, just buy some good gloves"? Whatever?


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ratvespa
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85 posts		 Dec-16-06, 05:29 AM (EDT)
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1. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   i have delt with heated grips, personaly, I dont like them, they make my palms sweat, and the out side is still cold. better off with heated gloves. but yeh, it all comes down to a good batery, good charging system, good regulator.

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morrisseyscoot
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781 posts		 Dec-16-06, 05:58 AM (EDT)
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2. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   i have clam hands naturally don't you?

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dwestmodesto
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98 posts		 Dec-16-06, 12:48 PM (EDT)
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3. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   I have been thinking of a heated grips project for my Bajaj Chetak. I was thinking that replacing the tail/brake light bulb with an LED would free up some watts. If that isn't enough, replace the turnsignal bulbs, and find a flasher that isn't dependent on resistance for flash timining. Enough bikes are using LED signals now that the have signal flashers that don't require a giant resistor to make the signals flash at the right speed. That should give you the power to run the grips at least on the low setting. I have heated grips on my BMW R1150GS, and they are a life saver.
Ride safe,
Dave

There are a couple other options, ATV heated grips are both the same diameter and the right size for scooters. There are also heated grip covers that go over your oem grips with velcro. The grip covers will probably work better since the rubber grip isn't insulating the heat from your hands. Heated grips end up loosing lots of heat to the metal heat conducting handlebar, while having the grip insulate heat away from going to your hands. Standard motorcycle grips have a problem since the throttle side is slightly larger than the clutch side since they need room for the plastic throttle.
Good Luck,
Dave

Check out http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Aerostich-Warm-Wrap-Grips-p-16731.html and look for the Aerostich Warm Wrap Grips. I think they would be perfect for a scooter.



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TV200
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827 posts		 Dec-16-06, 02:08 PM (EDT)
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4. "RE: Heat grips?"
In response to message #3
 
   LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-06 AT 02:10 PM (EDT)
 
>I have been thinking of a heated grips project for my Bajaj
>Chetak. I was thinking that replacing the tail/brake light
>bulb with an LED would free up some watts. If that isn't
>enough, replace the turnsignal bulbs, and find a flasher
>that isn't dependent on resistance for flash timining.
>Enough bikes are using LED signals now that the have signal
>flashers that don't require a giant resistor to make the
>signals flash at the right speed. That should give you the
>power to run the grips at least on the low setting. I have
>heated grips on my BMW R1150GS, and they are a life saver.
>Ride safe,
>Dave
>
>There are a couple other options, ATV heated grips are both
>the same diameter and the right size for scooters. There
>are also heated grip covers that go over your oem grips with
>velcro. The grip covers will probably work better since the
>rubber grip isn't insulating the heat from your hands.
>Heated grips end up loosing lots of heat to the metal heat
>conducting handlebar, while having the grip insulate heat
>away from going to your hands. Standard motorcycle grips
>have a problem since the throttle side is slightly larger
>than the clutch side since they need room for the plastic
>throttle.
>Good Luck,
>Dave
>
>Check out
>http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Aerostich-Warm-Wrap-Grips-p-16731.html
>and look for the Aerostich Warm Wrap Grips. I think they
>would be perfect for a scooter.


I have those wraps, and I love them, I don't use them on a scooter, but love them none the less.And I would absolutely use them on a scooter like a P200, and newer.I run them on my GS500 without noticing any drain on the battery,It also doesn't have crazy power, and runs a 10 ah battery. but I also put LED tail/brake lights in to minimize the power draw, and free up a tiny bit more power for the heat. I think they would suck on a 6v system. Also, for the original poster

http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16539&cat=0&page=1

same kit, $10 cheaper

Cheers
Greg

Vice President for life, Scott Baxter Scooter Club, minute taker of the Chris Herman Scooter Club
Oh and apparently
http://scoot.net/faq/TV200


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Jwilliams
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380 posts		 Dec-16-06, 07:41 PM (EDT)
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5. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-06 AT 07:44 PM (EDT)
 
I have larger gloves for the winter that allow me to use wool glove inserts (Army surplus green $5). Toasty.

Just ordered heated gloves for my daughter (Yamaha 650) for Christmas. The gloves and controller came to $218.

Jim Williams
'60 Allstate VNB
Half Moon Bay, CA


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flying squirrel
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14 posts		 Dec-17-06, 10:54 PM (EDT)
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6. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   Half Moon Bay Ca. Heated gloves. I'm laughing my ass off right now! When I rode by the bank the other morning, the sign informed me that it was 6am and 6 degrees.

I smell bacon. Do you smell bacon?


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toddq
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85 posts		 Dec-18-06, 04:50 AM (EDT)
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7. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   Heated grips rule. If you're thinking about doing it, do it.

I didn't see any $25 options several years back when I decided I wanted some on my P200 and didn't want to spend big bucks, so I made my own. I got some nichrome wire from my local hardware store, busted out a little Ohms law to figure out how long the wire should be for some nice medium heat, wrapped it around the outside of the grips, covered it in electrical tape, and wired it to a toggle switch. It's ghetto and there's no high/low option, but it's treated me well for several winters. I don't know what it draws, and I don't run it all the time, but I haven't had any problems with my electrical system as a result.

My hands do turn black if I use them in the rain though, but that's because my gloves suck. I could use some new ones for Christmas if any of you were looking for ideas...

toddq
bellingham, wa


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david_594
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66 posts		 Dec-18-06, 06:19 AM (EDT)
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8. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-18-06 AT 06:20 AM (EDT)
 
So I sorta half lied when I posted this topic as I was in the middle of installing them. They do seem to produce a nice amount of heat and I am pretty happy with them. Although in hindsight I realized I probabily could have done a better job with some parts.

Looking back I wish I bought the heat shrink tub that dual-star sells so there is a little insulation between the heating element and the tubes. I also ran a 14 gauge fused power wire from the battery to the glovebox where I have the switch, but its not hooked up to switched power. I think I am going to have to pull the headset cover again and run switched power from the speedo backlight to a relay so I dont end up accidentaly forgetting it on and draining the battery.

I also used 2 side tape for reattaching the grip and that doesnt seem to be holding up so well. Anyone have better ideas for that?

I also actually took some pictures of where I cut holes in the handles so that all the wires are hidden to make it a clean install.


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TV200
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9. "RE: Heat grips?"
In response to message #8
 
   >So I sorta half lied when I posted this topic as I was in
>the middle of installing them. They do seem to produce a
>nice amount of heat and I am pretty happy with them.
>Although in hindsight I realized I probabily could have done
>a better job with some parts.
>
>Looking back I wish I bought the heat shrink tub that
>dual-star sells so there is a little insulation between the
>heating element and the tubes. I also ran a 14 gauge fused
>power wire from the battery to the glovebox where I have the
>switch, but its not hooked up to switched power. I think I
>am going to have to pull the headset cover again and run
>switched power from the speedo backlight to a relay so I
>dont end up accidentaly forgetting it on and draining the
>battery.
>
>I also used 2 side tape for reattaching the grip and that
>doesnt seem to be holding up so well. Anyone have better
>ideas for that?
>
>I also actually took some pictures of where I cut holes in
>the handles so that all the wires are hidden to make it a
>clean install.

Just don't forget to turn them off

Cheers
Greg

Vice President for life, Scott Baxter Scooter Club, minute taker of the Chris Herman Scooter Club
Oh and apparently
http://scoot.net/faq/TV200


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bLuEsMoKe
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1780 posts		 Dec-18-06, 12:23 PM (EDT)
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10. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-18-06 AT 12:30 PM (EDT)
 
Sell everything. Move to Florida. It's $90 one way on Southwest

sembra una vespa!
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imjuanpablo
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3394 posts		 Dec-18-06, 12:33 PM (EDT)
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11. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   >Sell everything. Move to Florida. It's $90 one way on
>Southwest

With a P2 as a carry-on?

John F.


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joeb
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459 posts		 Dec-18-06, 01:49 PM (EDT)
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12. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   I just road to work in 25 degree weather on my '66 Super. about 6 miles wore snowmobile gloves. not bad at all.

joe
www.topdeadcentersc.com
VCOA
'59 VBA
'64 GS
'66 Super


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LYKOS
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13. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   If you want heated grips just get a car...otherwise be on the bike and in the real world. more and more people are getting bikes that are so unlike biker mentality...okay this is starting to sound kinda harsh, don't mean it to be harsh...I'd say get some good gloves, some good riding gear, and experience the world through a bike/scooter.

Sorry, I just saw this yuppie on a gold wing trike with heated every thing, the wind didn’t even touch him, GPS and XM radio, and all of the luxuries of a Cadillac, I don’t understand why even have a bike like that that and it just annoys me, so don’t turn a scoot into something like that.

It has 2 wheels and an engine, anyone
that doesn't like it can piss off!


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sjalex
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801 posts		 Dec-18-06, 03:49 PM (EDT)
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14. "RE: Heat grips?"
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   while you're at it get yourself a pair of silk knit glove liners; they're very thin but very warm and cost about $10.


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