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informant
Member since Oct-19-05
1 posts
Oct-19-05, 01:00 PM (EDT)
 
"GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
 
   I have some important advice for anyone considering buying a scooter from GS Motorworks. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY OR TIME! They are faulty to the core!!!

I can hardly even begin to tell you the horror story that has unfolded since I purchased one of their scooters.

I will try to be as brief as I can. The story is too long and depressing for me to rehash in much detail. The only thing I can say is that the scooter hasn’t run since it was delivered. They don’t know how to fix it. They won’t pay for any mechanical work to get it running and they won’t give me a refund. They’ll give you new parts all day long, but the parts are worthless pieces of junk. Their website states all of their policies in the warranty, but one would think a brand new scooter would work, for say maybe 2 years before breaking down. Not in this case. There aren’t even 2 miles on the thing.

Just remember the old saying, “You always get what you pay for.” I didn’t and now I’m paying for it in the worst way. I’ve got no scooter to drive me to work. But I do have one driving me crazy every day!

-informant


 

 
adminadmin
Member since May-28-02
1518 posts
Oct-19-05, 03:50 PM (EDT)
 
1. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   bring it to me, I am certain I can fix it.


 
informant
unregistered user
Oct-20-05, 04:30 PM (EDT)
 
2. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #1
 
   The problem appears to be with the vaccum function of the petcock. There isn't enough of a vaccum created during starting attempts to get the gas into the line.

Where do I hook up the gauge to check for compression levels in the engine? I'm pretty certain the line on the carb doesn't have any holes, so I don't think that could be the problem. Any other thoughts?


 
Kecia davis
unregistered user
May-30-06, 11:48 AM (EDT)
 
34. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #1
 
   Mine does not work either, where are you located and I will see if you can fix mine as well


 
Karen
unregistered user
Jun-28-06, 09:36 PM (EDT)
 
36. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #1
 
   I too have a Geely and can't get anyone to fix it. Any ideas as to who can in So Cal?


 
tortoise
Member since Aug-5-05
152 posts
Oct-20-05, 04:33 PM (EDT)
 
3. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   For those interested in the specific issues: Moped Army thread link


 
desi
unregistered user
Oct-27-05, 05:58 PM (EDT)
 
4. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   hey,
i'm sorry to hear your woes especially since i just bought one myself from gs motorworks, a retro lx, which i have not yet received. how crappy. hopefully it will be an easy fix and then problem free.
let me know what you find out. i'll do the same when mine arrives.
hopefully it will run.

once again, sorry man. that sucks.
desi


 
Eddie A
unregistered user
Oct-28-05, 06:07 PM (EDT)
 
5. "I have a new vaccum fuel tap......."
In response to message #0
 
   It will most likely fit many chinese models. It's brand new! Fuel taps are not uncommon to go bad. Even honda scooters have the same problem from time to time.

Eddie A


 
just a thought
unregistered user
Oct-29-05, 10:41 AM (EDT)
 
6. "RE: I have a new vaccum fuel tap......."
In response to message #5
 
   People who does not have mechanical knoclege should not get into this machines and GS knows that probable the buyer did something wrong putting it together.


 
eddie wire
unregistered user
Oct-29-05, 01:21 PM (EDT)
 
7. "RE: I have a new vaccum fuel tap......."
In response to message #6
 
   I just think you just suck and couldnt install it right!!!! And my moped from big chief owns.


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Nov-03-05, 01:08 PM (EDT)
 
8. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   That's great because I bought a scooter from G&S motorworks as well. A retro LX actually. I recieved it over 2 weeks ago and I've been having trouble with the battery. It was either the original battery that was bad or the charger that was bad. I ended up sending back the original battery and they sent me a tiny battery that is like putting a AAA battery in a D sized hole. They have been total idiots when I've called for help. I still to this day haven't fixed the battery problem. I actually went to a vespa store and bought my own charger to see if it will charge the new battery they sent. It's been charging for 16 hours. The light is still red on the charger. My patience is running thin. HOWEVER, I did manage to kick start the scooter with what i think is the small amount of juice that
was already in the battery when i got it. I drove the scooter around for about half an hour and it rode great. The only problem is that every thing that runs off the battery was very dim or didn't work at all. Hopefully I'll be able to solve this problem myself because the people at G&S can't put the bong down long enough to answer a simple question. I hate them.


 
another unsatisfied purchaser
unregistered user
Jul-13-06, 09:11 AM (EDT)
 
39. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #8
 
   I'm having a lot of problems with mine as well. The orginal battery went dead shortly after I purchased it. A new one cost $50 or so buck! The new battery will go dead if you do not continue to use the scooter. DO NOT use the kick start for too often. I did that and within a short period of time it wore the kick starter down. So that's not useable now. I have the compression problem when starting it as well. It now cuts off (chokes -out) at least twice before it will run. I would not recommend anyone to GS-Motor Works for one of these. I have other issues with it as well.

What a piece of Chinese crap!!! Should have bought the Italian Vespa. I want my money back.


 
Same Here
unregistered user
Nov-07-05, 06:54 PM (EDT)
 
9. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   Big Chief,

We've had an identical experience with the moped we ordered from GS Motorworks. We, too, ordered a moped in good faith that it would work! It didn't!! We too got the same run-around that you got.

We've never heard of ordering a new product and being told the company will in no way accept it as a return when it doesn't work. Neither have we ever heard of being told they would ship us the parts they think ("think" is the operative word here!) we need to get the moped running but that we will have to pay to cover the expense of a mechanic to install parts they think we need! And if that doesn't work, they'll send us additional parts!! You've got to be kidding me!! This sounds fraudalent to us!

Let us know if you get similar responses! We are as ticked as you!


 
MC
unregistered user
Nov-08-05, 08:44 PM (EDT)
 
10. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #9
 
   We also bought a Retro LX about a month ago. It has yet to start. Lost track of the calls to GS. I agree that it is reasonable to expect something you JUST BOUGHT work. There should be some recourse for consumers. No wonder they won't take it back or give a refund. What does that tell you? We finally found a mechanic to work on it at $60 an hour. Don't know the outcome yet. To say we are angry is an understatement.


 
GOT ONE FREE
unregistered user
Nov-10-05, 01:41 AM (EDT)
 
11. "RECOURSE ON GS MOTORWORKS"
In response to message #10
 
   i got a retro 4stroke
ran for about 2 miles and when open wide open would bog down
no power
then bog and no start
ii immediately knew what to do
i disputed the charge WITH MY CREDIT CARD COMPANY
you see, the credit goes through paypal
paypal has the power
once i sent a couple of attestations to my credit card co
about condition of scooter
they forwarded the claim TO paypal
paypal is like efhutton, when they talk gs listens
you see, paypal has the power to shut their money down in an instant
paypal gives vendor 5 days to refute
BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY CANT REFUTE THE UNREFUTABLE FACT THAT THE SCOOTER !@#
my money was back on my card shortly
AND they never asked for the scooter back
hope this helps someone


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Nov-11-05, 12:02 PM (EDT)
 
12. "RE: RECOURSE ON GS MOTORWORKS"
In response to message #11
 
   That's fantastic! I was considering taking them to small claims court. We bought our scooter over the phone with them with a debit card because we had door to door shipping. Do you think I could do the same thing you did? I don't think i used paypal over the phone but I do have a paypal account. let me know! Ps: i'm actually about to take my scooter into the shop now. It has 14 miles on it. Who knows if the guy is even going to be able to work on it and i've already put in an order for the part that i need. (voltage regulator) They said they are out of that part and it will be 2-4 weeks before they will get it in. I'm totally livid!


 
MIKE SMITH
unregistered user
Nov-13-05, 02:02 AM (EDT)
 
13. "RE: RECOURSE ON GS MOTORWORKS"
In response to message #11
 
   DISPUTE THE CHARGE IMMEDIATELY
I BELIEVE THEY CLAIM THE DELAY IN PARTS HOPING TO ALLOW THE TIME LIMITATION OF 2 MONTHS OR SO TO TICK BY


 
Luke
unregistered user
Dec-05-05, 06:02 AM (EDT)
 
14. "RE: RECOURSE ON GS MOTORWORKS"
In response to message #13
 
   Very interesting that so many people are having problems - I too have had a problem with them. I wish I had researched their name more!

When I received everything the instructions *didn't match the parts*. I haven't been able to start it since I received it, either. For me it was the battery. Apparently I was supposed to charge the battery before installed it - which the instructions never mentioned. They included some kind of power supply but I can't figure out what it's for - certainly not the battery.

I just took my battery to a helpful motorcycle shop and they are going to charge it overnight. If it doesn't work after this I am definitely going to refute the charge with my bank. I use Bank of America so hopefully that won't be a problem. I'll update with more later.


 
michael
unregistered user
Dec-05-05, 04:57 PM (EDT)
 
15. "RE: RECOURSE ON GS MOTORWORKS"
In response to message #14
 
   >Very interesting that so many people are having problems - I
>too have had a problem with them. I wish I had researched
>their name more!
>
>When I received everything the instructions *didn't match
>the parts*. I haven't been able to start it since I received
>it, either. For me it was the battery. Apparently I was
>supposed to charge the battery before installed it - which
>the instructions never mentioned. They included some kind of
>power supply but I can't figure out what it's for -
>certainly not the battery.
>
>I just took my battery to a helpful motorcycle shop and they
>are going to charge it overnight. If it doesn't work after
>this I am definitely going to refute the charge with my
>bank. I use Bank of America so hopefully that won't be a
>problem. I'll update with more later.

Let me know what the problem is by seeking me out and maybe give me a call and I will try to help if I can, as with every rechargable battery you must give a complete charge first, sounds like you have a Retro LX which is the only one I know that comes with a battery charger that plugs in under the seat, the LX is a copy of a TNG and is a nice scooter, I have started 4 of them in the past 30 days, simply charge the battery which took all of 1/2 hour, remove air filter cover spray starter fliud in there so it goes towards carb and bam fires right up, of course since these are two strokes I would fill oil resivoir and add two oz of injector two stroke oil for auto mix systems in the gas tank so there is some lube right away Hope this helps and by all means do not depend on someone that does not care if your scooters runs


 
MC
unregistered user
Jan-15-06, 09:49 PM (EDT)
 
22. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #10
 
   Here's an update. We took the advice to contact our credit card company. They told us to contact GS one more time and document everything. They have credited our account the cost of the scooter. Not sure yet if it is permanent, but seems to be. I won't say we got one free because we still don't have a running scooter. At this point it still has NEVER started and is sitting at a cycle shop. GS has not been very cooperative about shipping the parts they asked for (don't know if that will solve the problem). Don't know what the status of that is at the moment. I don't think we will ever have a scooter that works, all we got free is a pile of junk and a mechanic bill yet to be determined. Maybe we'll tell them to keep it and good riddance, but I don't think they will want it either.

Sorry, this update is connected to the one that seems to show up below this one.


 
Matt
unregistered user
Dec-09-05, 03:03 PM (EDT)
 
16. "GS Motorworks"
In response to message #0
 
   GS Motorworks - I 2nd Informant's opinion. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY OR TIME with GSMOTORWORKS! They don't return phone calls, when you finally get someone they send you a box of "nuts & bolts" to repair the scooter - even though the local mechanic we took it to had no idea what the problem was. When you bother them enough, then they get sarcastic & rude !!!!! Unbelieveable !!! We received the scooter WITHOUT any ignition keys & the battery packaged upside down (battery acid leaked all over). When the mechanic finally got it started and put it in gear ..... NO POWER ..... goes as fast as a riding lawn mower in 1st gear. GS Motorworks will not refund your money nor pay for any labor. Basically, they send you a piece of junk, take your money, and don't want you to bother them again. My suggestion if you are unlucky enough to have ordered one: get to your bank right away & tell them to stop payment. When someone advertises a product, you expect to receive the product as advertised - this is not the case. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR - STAY AWAY AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THEM.


 
Michael
unregistered user
Dec-10-05, 07:56 PM (EDT)
 
17. "RE: GS Motorworks"
In response to message #16
 
   >GS Motorworks - I 2nd Informant's opinion. ABSOLUTELY DO
>NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY OR TIME with GSMOTORWORKS! They don't
>return phone calls, when you finally get someone they send
>you a box of "nuts & bolts" to repair the scooter - even
>though the local mechanic we took it to had no idea what the
>problem was. When you bother them enough, then they get
>sarcastic & rude !!!!! Unbelieveable !!! We received the
>scooter WITHOUT any ignition keys & the battery packaged
>upside down (battery acid leaked all over). When the
>mechanic finally got it started and put it in gear ..... NO
>POWER ..... goes as fast as a riding lawn mower in 1st gear.
> GS Motorworks will not refund your money nor pay for any
>labor. Basically, they send you a piece of junk, take your
>money, and don't want you to bother them again. My
>suggestion if you are unlucky enough to have ordered one:
>get to your bank right away & tell them to stop payment.
>When someone advertises a product, you expect to receive the
>product as advertised - this is not the case. DO YOURSELF A
>FAVOR - STAY AWAY AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THEM.

Email me and I wil help with your scooter and even do so over the phone, I have offered this help before and starting believe all this trouble with GS is made up if you do not want any help, to take to a mechanic and they have no ideal its the mechanic who is wrong, these are not hard to figure out, its funny you never mention what scooter you have if you really have and just want to bad mouth GS


 
julie
unregistered user
Dec-29-05, 08:23 PM (EDT)
 
18. "RE: GS Motorworks"
In response to message #17
 
   I too bought from GS and my scooter does not run, right out of the box. I would love any advice on how to fix mine, not that I should have to but I'm trying. It is a Big Chief turbo. It made it around the block twice and kept stalling. Then it wouldn't start at all. It's not getting fuel, it runs when I spray starter fluid in the carb. They sent a new petcock, the wrong one, but I figured the gas goes into it and comes out, that's it's function, and took off the out hose while starting and gas game out of the old one so I figure it's fine. So now I figure carburater. The website said to put oil in the gas for the first tank to lube things up. The owner's manual didn't say to do it, but I did. I think that extra oil gunked things up in the carb. So I soaked the carb and still the same thing. I ordered a new carb. What do you think scooter repair guy?


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Jan-03-06, 12:44 PM (EDT)
 
19. "question for michael"
In response to message #17
 
   my scooter problem is the headlight and brake lights come on when i connect the battery to the scooter and it immediately drains all the power out of the battery because the headlight and brakelights aren't supposed to come on until after the key is in the ignition. I've talked to the mechanic at g&s who told me it's really hard to say what's wrong with it without looking at it but to try and replace the voltage regulator. Now the second problem is i've been trying to get this part since the beginning of november.They've been telling me that the part is on order from china and to check back in a couple of weeks. This is still going on today. Now that is bad business to me, but i have gotten my scooter to ride once with very little battery power and no headlight and it drives great but i need all the electrical to work properly to ever use this scooter to get anywhere because when I turned it off it won't start back up even with kick start. What do u think?


 
Nikki
unregistered user
Jan-03-06, 01:09 PM (EDT)
 
20. "RE: question for michael"
In response to message #19
 
   I am also the owner of a hunk of metal from GS that doesn't work. I was irritated initially because the manual didn't seem to match the setup. Then I took a good look at the picture on their website and at the scooter they sent and the engine set up is different. One example is where the exhaust connects to the engine, its in a completely different location on my scoot than it is in the picture. Second, the battery lasted all of two weeks. We called and they claimed that was normal. I've owned mopeds in the past and my batterys lasted at least a year. The electric start died out within the first couple of days. All phone calls from them have been completely unhelpful and they refused to replace the battery even though it was within the warranty period. Once I can get a new battery (having trouble finding someplace that has them in stock) I'm selling it and getting a Vino.


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Jan-03-06, 10:07 PM (EDT)
 
21. "hey nikki"
In response to message #20
 
   just wanted to let u know that, after i figured out i was on my own with the piece of crap GS, i found a vino on craigslist for 800 bucks! It's the best scooter ever. I've had ZERO problems with it and would highly recomend them to anyone. Cheers and Good luck!!


 
Nikki
unregistered user
Jan-17-06, 03:59 PM (EDT)
 
23. "RE: hey nikki"
In response to message #21
 
   Where do you live? I live in a place with VERY mild winters yet no one seems to use scooters. We're moving back up to IL and I was wondering if I'll be able to use it much in the winter.


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Jan-17-06, 06:18 PM (EDT)
 
25. "RE: hey nikki"
In response to message #23
 
   I live in New orleans where the winters are extremely mild. We only have short cold spells. I've noticed that since the hurricane alot of people are on scooters around here these days. It's actually alot easier to get around on the cramped one way streets of the quarter, parking is a breeze and not to mention the $3.00 a week u spend on gas. As far as riding in the cold (as cold as it gets here anyways) my vino always starts right up. Just be sure to bundle up obviously, burrrrr.
As for the update on my G&S hunk of junk they finally sent the part i was requesting for 3 months. I installed it in a matter of 10 minutes and it worked (sort of). I LUCKILY found a guy here who said he would work on it if i had any problems but basically said i was lucky to get one that ever worked at all and that i should be prepared if I take it in one day and he tells me that what is wrong with it is just not worth fixing. I rode it to work the day i fixed it and now the seat will not unlatch. It's holding my helmet and glasses hostage. I may have to break the seat to get my things out of there. who knows? Like i said before, Get the vino and just keep the G&S for a backup if you can ever get it working good enough. The class action suit might be a long shot but I'd be interested in finding out more about that. PS: invest in a battery tender jr. trickle charger. Charge your battery with that for at least 24 hours. The one they send you with the scooter that plugs in under the seat is junk. Mine never did work.


 
Nikki
unregistered user
Jan-19-06, 00:42 AM (EDT)
 
26. "Update on issue with GS"
In response to message #25
 
   I have a charger, but the battery died right away. This is a new experience as my past mopeds didn't need to be charged for 5 -8 hours before using them. In fact even the owner's manual doesn't state a single thing about it. It also states the size battery required and it's NOT that itty bitty one. If you can get your bike to run on that, if your headlight is dim because of it you can get a ticket. I know texas has laws about that so be careful driving it at night.

$3 a week? My old Tomos used to use like $4 a month, it was great. Fun heading into work on a nice day and listening to people gripe about what they're spending on gas and saying "yeah this gas guzzler is running me $4 a month, its insane." Lots of dirty looks. Course I also had a pretty fuel efficient car too.

By the way for those of you that are having problems with the company I suggest filing a complaint with the Texas Attorney General (that's where the company is, Texas). Put those tax dollars to use.

By the way here is the latest update. I emailed the owner of the company and told him all the problems I am having and told him that I've found a number of message boards where his customers are experiencing similar problems. In many companies the folks higher up have no idea what the underlings are doing to customers so I thought maybe he'd look into it and jump on some backs. After all happy customers = more sales.

Here is the response I got:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am out of the office until Monday, but when I return, I will process you a full refund. Then, you will have 20 days to crate the scooter and ship it back to us, at your expense. After 20 days, if we have not received it, we will file a police report, listing the scooter as stolen. We also work with Equifax, and will also file the information with them, which will show up on your credit report, should the issue not be resolved.

I refuse to have you hold my company hostage over the fact that you needed to charge your battery before you could use your scooter. Furthermore, should you miliciously slander my company online, we will take legal action against you. You should be aware that, by law, message boards keep record of all IP addresses that access their site, and post comments as well. You can clearly see an IP hyperlink on most message boards.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So watch out, everyone here might get sued for slander. I'm seeing an attorney tomorrow and filing a complaint with the AG, since threatening to refund against my will and demanding the property back is fradulent. I'll post an update after the attorney takes over if anyone's interested.


 
cole
unregistered user
Jan-20-06, 07:19 PM (EDT)
 
27. "RE: Update on issue with GS"
In response to message #26
 
   It seems that you should't have to charge a battery before every use. Keep me posted I would like to see how this all pans out.


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Jan-22-06, 03:53 PM (EDT)
 
28. "RE: Update on issue with GS"
In response to message #26
 
   I am absolutely interested in this. Please post any updates. I'm sure alot of people will be interested in finding out what help is available to them. Considering that many scooter mechanics can vouch that these scooters aren't up to par people shouldn't have a problem proving it in court.


 
SUNL_SUCKS
unregistered user
Aug-31-06, 11:33 AM (EDT)
 
53. "RE: Update on issue with GS"
In response to message #26
 
  
>You should be aware that, by law, message boards keep record
>of all IP addresses that access their site, and post
>comments as well. You can clearly see an IP hyperlink on
>most message boards.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>So watch out, everyone here might get sued for slander.

Screw GS!
You have a right to free speech and as long as you are telling the truth about your experience there is NOTHING GS can do about it. Tell GS if they can find any lawyer stupid enough to represent them......to PLEEEAAASSSEEE sue you. That you'd love to get this into court.

http://ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=208509

Now use your keyboard and go after GS!
If they won't replace the bad parts, honor the warranty or give you a refund, then you can start with these suggestions (they were written for Texas, but you can adapt them to your state).

1) File a ripoff report.
http://ripoffreport.com/
What's good about this website, is that once you file a report, the company name shows up in most search engines. People will know that this company does not honor it's warranty. Be sure and add pictures.
2) File a report on the Squeaky Wheel....
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com
3) File a report on Consumer Affairs.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/php/a_report.php
Again the company name will show up on search engines like Google.
4) Texas has a lemon law and if a company does not honor a warranty, the state Attorney General likes to know and will take action.
file a complaint with the Texas State Attorney here:
http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/complain.shtml
file a lemon law complaint here:
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/services/motor_vehicle/texas_lemon_law/default.htm
5) File a report with the Better Business Bureau.
http://www.dallas.bbb.org/
The BBB is basically toothless, but every little bit helps.
6) File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission for false advertising and deceptive trade practices.
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
7) Is the product unsafe or dangerous? File a section 15 report with the
Consumer Product Safety Commission.
http://www.cpsc.gov/sec15.html
Get on every forum and usenet newsgroup that deals with ATVs, Go-Karts, scooter or motorcycles and tell your story (exact truth).

Every time you do one of the above, email the link to the vendor.


 
Nikki
unregistered user
Jan-17-06, 04:26 PM (EDT)
 
24. "Replacement battery"
In response to message #20
 
   Like one of the other posters here the replacement battery I bought from GS Motorworks was half the size of the original. They are being uncooperative about sending the correct one. It won't start with this battery. They claim that I now need to replace the magneto. How can they know that if I can't test the bike with the proper size battery? They also said I have to charge the battery for 5-8hours prior to using it EVERY time I want to use it. WTF? I have never had to do that with my other mopeds. Besides, what if I need to make an unplanned trip?

I have filed complaints with Paypal, Paypal Buyer credit (unfortunatly it was too late to get the charges reversed), the Federal Trade Comission, and the Better Business Bureau. I'm also checking into filing a class action suit if I can get enough people interested.


 
tom
unregistered user
Apr-28-06, 07:39 PM (EDT)
 
33. "RE: Replacement battery"
In response to message #24
 
   so far i have gotten a new battery and i just received a new voltage regulater , the thing still doesn't start, Please dont waste your money on gsmotorworks scooters, they suck . i have 4 miles on it .


 
FL
unregistered user
Jun-24-06, 03:07 PM (EDT)
 
35. "RE: GS Motorworks"
In response to message #16
 
   I also purchased a scooter from G.S. it lasted a little longer than most got 400miles out of it and the battery went bad and it doesnt seem to be getting any fuel. but the jokes on them they never charged my cresit card but i still have a piece of crap that doesnt run.


 
BaronMotorcycles
Member since May-3-05
981 posts
Jan-25-06, 07:55 PM (EDT)
 
29. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   Hmmm... This is in no way a reflection on GS Motorworks, but why are all complaints coming from unregistered users? Could it be that it's the same person posing as different people? Inquiring minds want to know.


 
danielkeating
unregistered user
Jan-25-06, 09:46 PM (EDT)
 
30. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #29
 
   >Hmmm... This is in no way a reflection on GS Motorworks, but
>why are all complaints coming from unregistered users? Could
>it be that it's the same person posing as different people?
>Inquiring minds want to know.
In looking at the ip addresses linked to the replies , GOT ONE FREE and Mike Smith are one in the same as both have ip address 68.17.173.149
Michael has a ton of ip addresses
# 202.45.119.25
# 66.15.35.254
# 209.179.198.59
# 209.179.250.136
# 209.179.253.7
# 209.179.195.193
# 71.110.174.56
# 63.193.29.140
# 209.179.253.203
# 63.90.125.28
# 71.116.149.28
# 68.37.188.6
# 71.116.141.231
# 71.116.177.152
# 71.116.179.146
# 71.116.169.252
# 71.116.173.61
# 65.34.234.140
# 71.116.163.151
# 65.34.234.245
# 71.116.179.42
# 72.67.7.197
Either logging into a different public library pc for each post , or a VERY dynamic ip , or spoofing a proxy


 
theunderstated
unregistered user
Jan-28-06, 02:09 PM (EDT)
 
31. "to inquiring minds"
In response to message #30
 
   the reason why only unregistered users are complaining is probably because we all bought these pieces of junk without first researching the company and product reviews. Now that we're stuck with them we want to tell everyone to not make the same mistake (using whatever outlet we can find.) This is my theory for the conspiracy theorist.


 
conspiracy therorist
unregistered user
Apr-19-06, 07:35 PM (EDT)
 
32. "RE: to inquiring minds"
In response to message #31
 
   yeah, i was just searching online for the name and help on how to fix it. Im unregistered and happen to come across it from google.


 
Meg50
Member since Jul-7-06
2 posts
Jul-07-06, 05:36 PM (EDT)
 
37. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #0
 
   When I purchased my Big Chief Retro LX I was told by the dealer it was manufactured by Geely. However when I received my title the MFG was listed as Huansong and the model VN492LX. Can anyone shed some light as who is the true MFG as well as any other MFG info.

Thanks!

Have Fun But Be Careful Out There!


 
Astraea
unregistered user
Jul-08-06, 00:45 AM (EDT)
 
38. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #37
 
   You can check Frame number of your scooter, The real Geely scooter should be LB2********. " LB2 " mean Geely Motorcycle Company in the world. As I know, there are a lot of illegal dealers who sell fake Geely soocter in U.S. Market. You can contact with Geely Motorcycle company directly for truth. Their official webiste is http://www.geely.com/english/moto/introduction.htm

As for Huansong, It maybe this company, here is website for reference. http://www.hsmotor.com.cn/web/indexs.asp?typeid=130&bannerid=69&title=SCOOTER

Good luck. God bless you.


 
Michelle
unregistered user
Jul-21-06, 04:22 PM (EDT)
 
40. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #38
 
   Well, I thought I had checked out GS Motorworks pretty well. Now I am also having trouble with my scooter and, upon doing more research, I am seeing posts like this. I bought a Sinclair LX, have 135 miles on it and it has recently has started stalling out on me. Not all the time and when it does stall, if I leave it sit for an hour or so, it will eventually start up. I thought a basic 4-stroke would be pretty hard to screw up...


 
Vespadude
unregistered user
Jul-22-06, 10:39 PM (EDT)
 
41. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #40
 
   Michelle, email Nick Olson at nick@gsmotorworks.com. He is their Customer Service Manager, and he will help you out.


 
Vespadude
unregistered user
Jul-24-06, 12:40 PM (EDT)
 
42. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #41
 
   Michelle,

From your IP address, I see you are in Australia. How did you get a GS Motorworks scooter in Australia?

Vespadude


 
max
unregistered user
Jul-30-06, 06:15 AM (EDT)
 
43. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #42
 
   i wana buy one but evryone seens to have some horrible story. does anyone recieve reliable scooters from gs?


 
Henry
unregistered user
Jul-30-06, 08:48 PM (EDT)
 
44. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #43
 
   I have a 50QT Scooter, paid 600 for it used, it has almost 3000 miles on it the only problem, mine has a Yamaha motor, I have is the head light and rear marker light burn out, currently the battery will not hold a charge. Any ideas on correcting the problem?

Also my daughter hit a few things so if some one has one not working I would but for the plastic parts.

email hlorenzen@cfl.rr.com


 
Hopeful
unregistered user
Aug-16-06, 03:13 PM (EDT)
 
46. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #41
 
   >Michelle, email Nick Olson at nick@gsmotorworks.com. He is
>their Customer Service Manager, and he will help you out.

What can you tell me about what Nick Olson did for you? Was he selling you parts that GSMotorworks makes (under another name?) Are they the parts the other people talk about, "they sell you parts" but even the parts don't work?

I want my scooter to just hold a charge and work!

Hopeful


 
Vespadude
unregistered user
Aug-21-06, 02:57 PM (EDT)
 
47. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #46
 
   Hopeful,

Nick sent me parts for my retro scooter I bought from GS last year. I was out of warranty, but a battery for $30 and a petcock for $5 were pretty reasonable to me.

I also bought a couple of body panels earlier this year, when my daughter got on my scooter when it was on its side kickstand. She got on from the other side (not the side the kickstand was down) and tipped the scooter over. I had to buy a side panel and bottom panel, and for those, Nick had me email him a digital picture, so that he could send me the correct part.

I recommend when ordering a part that you either send them a picture, or just mail the part to them. UPS is about $5, but it is sure worth it to save weeks, if they cannot identify the part from an emailed description.


 
wombatWheeler
Member since Nov-26-05
240 posts
Aug-04-06, 09:41 PM (EDT)
 
45. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #38
 
   >You can check Frame number of your scooter, The real Geely
>scooter should be LB2********. " LB2 " mean Geely Motorcycle
>Company in the world. As I know, there are a lot of
>illegal dealers who sell fake Geely soocter in U.S. Market.
>You can contact with Geely Motorcycle company directly for
>truth. Their official webiste is
>http://www.geely.com/english/moto/introduction.htm
>
>As for Huansong, It maybe this company, here is website for
>reference.
>http://www.hsmotor.com.cn/web/indexs.asp?typeid=130&bannerid=69&title=SCOOTER
>
>Good luck. God bless you.
>
>

Good God! Fake Geely scooters? And I thought I had heard it all. How low can a person sink? At least I know my Wildfire is the genuine article;)

Barry


 
David
unregistered user
Aug-21-06, 09:15 PM (EDT)
 
48. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #45
 
   I just recieved my GS Motorworks scooter. It doesn't work. The seat won't open up and the throttle doesn't work. It turns on, but simply won't go anywhere. When i say I just recieved my scooter i mean yesterday. There aren't any miles on it. 0.


 
Tammy Sturm
unregistered user
Aug-22-06, 10:40 PM (EDT)
 
49. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #48
 
   I REALLY wish I had found this message board before I stupidly let GSMotorworks charge $1500 to my card. When I went to go pick up the scooter, the box was totally smashed and had a huge hole in it (the website claims that their scooters are shipped in "crates", can we say false advertising?) Their website says if the crate is damaged to call the customer service number and they will send out a claims specialist to file a claim. Instead, employees of the shipping company just took it out of the box after i left and proclaimed it undamaged. I tried to explain to GSmotorworks that just because there is not aesthetic damage doesn't mean that the scooter will run properly and now that I am reading about everyone else's probs, I would bet not. Naturally I refused shipment and stupidly expected their customer service to send me a new scooter or give me a refund. They refuse to do either, so now I am out $1500, and I don't even have a scooter. Is anyone out there a lawyer? I am not sure what i should do to get my money back since I paid with my debit card and they won't reverse the charges...


 
dream_hypnotique
unregistered user
Aug-23-06, 01:05 AM (EDT)
 
50. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #49
 
   Geely is the Good Charlotte of the scooter world. it tries so hard to be real and respected, but it's just worthless sh**. However, unlike Good Charlotte, chinese scooters will likely improve as time goes on instead of being written off as an irritating fad.



 
rick
unregistered user
Aug-26-06, 12:42 PM (EDT)
 
51. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #49
 
   I'm not sure if it's a BIG PIECE of crap or not yet but it's starting to look like it. couldn't get to start. brought to scooter mech. got it started rode home and to the supermarket then it wouldn't start AGAIN. started it up 2 weeks later, rode to bank and bank and was going to bring to scooter mech. next morning AGAIN doesn't start!! I got this for a present for my girlfriend but i can't give something so UNRELIABLE!

keep you posted...


 
ahagenLB150T
Member since Sep-7-06
1 posts
Sep-08-06, 02:51 AM (EDT)
 
56. "RE: GS Motorworks, Big Chief, Geely"
In response to message #51
 
   LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-06 AT 02:52 AM (EDT)
 
Not to be the bearer of good news... but both my parents and my g/f and I all bought GS Motorworks scooters. My parents the Sinclair LX and the g/f and I the Riptide LX. I just today put the 700th mile on mine and have had no troubles, the g/f has got over 500 on hers. Not sure on my parents, but they both got theirs before we did. Some things have come up, but either I'm not the kind of person to blow up about the small things like needing a nut or a bolt... or all four of us got quality scooters. My dad did have a problem with an exhaust bolt coming loose, but has since remedied the situation through GS Motorworks. Happy Scootering.


 

 

 


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